Conversation with Earthtone
Wednesday, 26 October, 2005
亲子 | 笔者: Twinsmom
Earthtone called just now, gave me some update on the baby and breastfeeding.
Apparently baby not suckling well, he suck then no milk he pull out, so ET quite frustrated. And baby even refuse to open his mouth even they try to tickle his chin and cheek, so I told ET when he open his mouth cry that time put him to the breast.
Really can’t do much here, can only give lip service only.
I just keep remind her and my mom baby need time to adjust, keeps let baby suckling to “place order“, then only the body can make the product to meet the order.
But… I did told ET if… only IF they really can’t tahan, mix a little bit of formula (about 1 oz. and spoon feed or cup feed) for baby, but still keep breastfeed him, the milk eventually will come.
And keep remind her that in the first week baby tend to lost a bit of weight due to this kind of senario, but it will be OK, and he will catching up later.
I guess I pour out all I have and all I can.
Now I finally understand how the closed family member feel, when they see the new mommy try to breastfeed, but no milk yet, and the baby cry.
As her sister I feel so much of her worry, and I don’t want her to feel bad and guilty, and also feel pressure and stress. So I also give up a little bit by telling her, if she want to, then just feed a little bit of formula.
This situation is totally different from I give support to someone else, who are not related to me. I feel for the mothers, but I just give advice and support, of cause I concern, but the feeling just not the same when I give support to my own sister.
Now I know how Twinsdad and MIL feel when I tried to breastfeed, but babies still crying, and they thought my milk was not enough, they not only worry about the babies, they worry about me, the pressure I take it with me. Twinsdad also can’t see me stress out because of breastfeed the twins, so he suggests give the formula, not that he don’t know about the goodness of breastfeeding, he just can’t see me getting more and more frustrated.
And it is exactly how I feel now.
While I give support to my sister, I found I need support from others to continue support her.
I told her everyone here is wishing her well, encourage her and be her cheerleader, she said she is so touching, and said “thanks” to everyone, she will update her birth story when she got time.
Oh, baby’s name is Zi Heng 子衡. (Photo at the bottom of this post)
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“酱?”
“吓… 他不大要吮吸咧…”
“乘他口开大大赶快抱进胸前塞住他的嘴啦。”
“他都不要开口。”
“那乘他哭的时候。”
“OK，他什么都没有喝到咧，三十多个小时了，没有大便也没有小便咧。”
“不怕啦，他需要时间适应。他吸到一点点初乳也顶得住的。”
“很辛苦咧，看他一直哭，好像很讨厌我的样子。”
“是酱的啰，刚开始是没有奶的嘛，要一直给他吸啰，现在给他吸是在给你的身体下订单嘛，他吸得多也就代表订单多啰，订单多你的身体不是制造多一点奶啰，没有订单做什么货？”
“OK，我是没有什么，我知道要怎么做，但是旁边的人咧… HC顶不顺了，下楼买了一罐奶粉准备着。”
“吓？哈哈哈… 是酱的啦，大家都担心嘛，我以前也不是给人说我虐待孩子，哭到鬼那样还不给奶粉。”
“阿妈你知道的啦，哩哩罗罗，她没有怎样，不过一直在那边 ‘还没有奶啊？哎哟，一直这样哭…’ ，哪，我让你和她讲”
电话另一端，“阿妈，来，大姐要教训你。”
“哈啰！” 阿拉妈，语气不是很好。当然，没听说过要给人教训了语气还会好的。
“哗… 做什么这样的声音？听到要给人教训了就这副样子？”
“嘻嘻嘻… 当然嘛，要给人骂了还会有好心情呗？”
“酱？”
“酱啰，吸来吸去都没有奶还能酱？”
“会有的啦，没有酱快的。你不要去咦哦她，给她一点信心。”
“*咦咦唔唔*… 都快两天了，都没有… *咦咦唔唔*” 我妈就是这样，每次要讲又怕我们顶嘴咧，她就*咦咦唔唔*口齿不清。
“是酱的啦，头几天是没有奶水的，要顶才有嘛，好像以前你做cake那样，没有订单你也做一大堆呗？会有的啦，别担心。”
“我煮了木瓜汤给她。”
“哦，还有一样你可以煮，葫芦巴子煮江鱼子汤。”
“吓？什么葫芦巴子？”
“呃… 呐… 记得 nasi dagang 吗？不是有那种小小粒，褐色的香料吗？那不是葫芦巴子啰，可以催奶的。”
“哦！是啊？” 哗，语气很兴奋。
“去杂货店看看有没有。”
“这些啊？我看印度店才会有，这里都没有印度店。”
“不要紧，你看杂货店有你就买，要不然我会带一包下来。”
“给回ET听。”
“怎样？帮我教训了？哈哈哈… ”
“不肖子孙。照片咧？昨天在电话听到他的声音，真想立刻飞过去抱抱。”
“好啦，依猫照片给你。”
I am cloud – - mong cha cha…
“ah…gu ji gu ji gu…call po-po.”
“Not that I don’t want to call you, but I afraid you old age got heart attack if I call you. better stay blur blur don’t show off. Waliau… your aging spot so big.”
Hey.. Twinsmom,
I know how you feel..! but keep giving ET moral support.. i know she needs it..!
And for ET.. “add oil” “add oil” !! but i know that you are doing a great job..!!!
hey, i felt so touched reading the conversation. I felt like as if i was there overhearing the conversation, LIVE.
Motherhood sure is tough! Ahhh, seems like ET needs you so much, Maria. You might wanna go there sooner before she surrenders to all these 恶势力.
Zi Heng, so pleased to meet you!
酱meh?
LOL!
well… I think patience is very important… just get through the first week… and it’ll all work out subsequently
maria, 你终于明白那个滋味了吗？不过呵，老实告诉你，就算你在那儿，可以做的也是跟现在差不多啦… 因为当场示范/鼓励过度的话，也是一种无形的压力。最重要看ET本身要哺乳的恒心咯… 在这儿祝她成功！
Baby very chubby leh… and big tooLOL! From the photo really can tell the head very big! (no offence though)
Wahlau! Your 设计对白 make fun of your mom hahahah!!
me oso very kan choeng for her…. duno when the milk will come in. for myself, i was lucky coz baby was sucking well and no problem with sitting up oso. Zi Heng rilly quite big baby hor, so nicely chubby and nice to carry
Baby chubby hor! Eh, has she tried using warm towel to warm the breast? Last time I engorged and milk couldn’t come out, I used warm towel to massage. After that milk flow out liao!
Maria, keep on give your courage to ET ya.
hmmm…… nth much i can say lor…!!
just wanna spam here…whaha..
Big Bok, we definately have to “add oil” for ET, because she is burning midnight oil there
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Greenapple, hahaha… not that bad right? anyway…she is trying very hard.
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Egghead, 就是酱啰，LOL… ya, I told her after first week everything will be OK.
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DG, what you said is true also, be there might be more pressure for her.
ai yah, look at the pictures can’t help but poke some fun.
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Sue, Thanks for your support, I think I have made everyone very kan-jiong liao
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Annie Tan, Thanks a lot! will keep that in mind
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Sofhib, yeah, we will keep going! yee? why sounds like I am the one who attempt to breastfeed?
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Milly, OK lar, Auntie Earthtone know you very naughty lar
Maria, buy some Anmum 2 for her, it will give her more milk. If really cannot, pump out a bit of milk and feed to baby. I used to do that when I was scared to feed bb cause I almost suffocate him when the nurse force too hard. Bb turned blue, Thank GOD MIL came to touch on baby’s feet only I realize he turned blue. I cried so hard after that.
Another thing, just remind her when breast feed, don’t let any guest in so she can relax a bit. I mean male guest.
can eat a lot of papaya (i mean without cooked), serves it as fruit every meal. I’ve tried and it’s work. nothing much can says but 加油！加油！ to both ET and to maria, who as the major supporter among a bunch of ‘offender’ there.
Wah.. so cute!! ET Add Oil Add Oil.. don’t give up. Xing1 ku3 for a week or so it will become xin4 fu2 later on. Rest more eat well, massage a bit and drink more water :Þ Also remember don’t wear too thick clothing for Baby when breastfeeding him wor… sometimes he cry because other part of the body not comfortable (too hot, diaper wet) Little Luke’s face turn all red when I try to breastfeed him for the first time. Take good care of yourself and Baby!!
Twinsmom, ET so lucky to have an experience and suportive sister ler..
last time I oso felt difficult to encourage my sis ler…takut put too much stress to her…
anyway, hope ET will continue bf lor…try as long as possible lor..
the baby is so cute and chubby…feel like pinching his cheek.
it was the same with me last time…my mom always asked me to give formula and dont stress…she says if i’m sick, who is going to take care of the baby! husband pulak say dont mix…but he is not there to give me encouragement (i stayed with my mom during confinement). so ended up, not much milk comes out from me.
Twinsmum, if ET’s baby didn’t want to open mouth to suck, ask ET to pump it out, then spoon feed the baby the milk. Little bit also never mind.
Drink lots of water. And the Indian herb you are talking about, Fenugreek, can be found in Organic shop and most supermarket, no need specifically go Indian shop to buy.
Even if bb started taking formula, not sucking, ask ET to pump pump pump, just to stimulate the breast to product more milk.
Anyway, jia yiu. Hopefully, she’ll succeed in her breastfeeding!
Give my support and regards to ET
Don’t worry, ask her to relax and fret not, keep trying and i’m sure she can do it!
Btw, the “conversation” between the Ah Mah and Baby is hilarious…LOL….hehehehe…
Allyfeel, ET did mention to me before about the mommy milk, but then because last time after I consumed and the milk became too thick and caused blocked milk duct, so I a bit hesitate to encourage her lor. May be should ask her to try, thanks for remind me this
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. OK, take note of the baju also, wah, so many things to report to ET, good, which show I am very useful.
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ShaiuLin, waliau… never feel lonely to have all of you here
Papaya eat like that also can? OK, take note.
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J, uh…. well say! 一时辛苦，终身幸福？thank you, thank you
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Msau, hohoho…milk came lor, milk came lor…more happy than Santa Claus coming to town.
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Miche, ya lor… breastfeeding really a long, lonely and winding road
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Zara’s Mum, apparently my mom still not very familiar with the area my sister stay, so far she only know the grocery store at the corner, will bring her some and check out for her when I am there.
last time I even consumed fenugreek capsule sold in the health store, but find it not as efficient as the boil wan.
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Eileen, Thanks for your support!
ah? the conversation? hahaha…can’t help to poke some fun
actually hor, it is easier the second time round and if there is a lack of confinement ladies and such. But also because more knowledge 2nd time. but by no means an easy job. I remember the hard work of feeding the baby every other hour at hospital, throughout the night, until she cried towards morning – from soiled packed diapers :p . Heck, it is really hard work, for the first two months at the very least. It is real labour, no joke.
Mrs. B, yah…there is very rare case I heard that breastfeeding is smooth sailing to the 1st time mom, let alone being take care by confinement lady or elderly who not support and don’t know anything about breastfeed.
But breastfeeding really depends on individual, some people can’t even stnd for more than one week, but some can even continue breastfeed the baby even though nipple cracking (I was one, I don’t know how I got through it).
hi，my son is almost the same age as yours.
My milk supply dropped suddenly the day before yesterday.
And my son refused to take bottle. I have tried all kinds of nipple in the past two month. (He refused bottle suddenly after two month check up).
Since you have used fenugreek, is it good? any side effect? is it safe? ｗmi I am too so worryied. my email address: shanshan.liu@gmail.com any help area appreciated. thanks orry